Curse

Electric Sky · Oct 07, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

of all the questions to ask, why does it have to be mathematical ?

Yanman.be · Oct 07, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Because it's a universal language.

Fates · Oct 07, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Is it sad that I'd rather have prizes 5 through 9 than 1 through 4? Do people entering this contest really need a copy of Factions or the Factions Prima guide? It really should be Nightfall goodies, not Factions.

Electric Sky · Oct 07, 2006, 04:12 PM // 16:12

i thought the questions would have something to do with guild wars instead

some guy · Oct 07, 2006, 05:07 PM // 17:07

I'm a Chinesse Canadian, do I still have to take the test??

Xenex Xclame · Oct 07, 2006, 05:26 PM // 17:26

If you live in canada yes.

Former Ruling · Oct 07, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Sky

i thought the questions would have something to do with guild wars instead

From reading the Wiki:
That wouldn't work under the law.

It has to Test your Skill. And knowing information about Charr doesn't mean you are skilled or smart in real life.

Also stuff like 2+2 isn't a test of skill, it has to be a REAL math problem, something that a 1st grader couldn't answer.

Anyway...Wiki mean mentions that this law isn't even enforced anymore, Anet just has a history of making a thousand percent sure that they are on good terms with every country they sale their games in.

Cracko · Oct 07, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by some guy

I'm a Chinesse Canadian, do I still have to take the test??

Like you can't solve the question

Opeth11 · Oct 07, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Also stuff like 2+2 isn't a test of skill, it has to be a REAL math problem, something that a 1st grader couldn't answer.

Probably something like:

4+16x2-6/2

At least, that's what I found in my Mars Bar a few months ago..

Juhanah · Oct 07, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

As for quebec not being able to participate, is because of Loto-Quebec. Every commercial contest, casino and luck games have to be approved by them first. And imo if the cost to have it approved is more than the actual prize of the contest.. There's no reason to get it approved.

I also don't think Anet and their sponsors wanna go through all the legal stuff just to get a small halloween contest approved in Quebec.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loto-Quebec

dmndidjit · Oct 07, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Fear not Canadians, all the Halloween Art Contest says is "Canadian residents will be required to answer an additional mathematical question" not "correctly answer an additional mathematical question."

At least it is only an additional question, not subtractional or multiplicational, or the dreaded long divisional. Though I wonder if this actually means everyone now has to answer a math question and Canadians have to answer an extra one.

Regardless, I’m pretty sure you won’t have to worry about getting it right. If being right was a requirement the brain trust at ANet would surely need to get an outside company to administer the test and I doubt they have the budget for that.

Now that was uncalled for. Every time someone picks on ANet a pixel cries.

kilkelo · Oct 07, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juhanah

As for quebec not being able to participate, is because of Loto-Quebec. Every commercial contest, casino and luck games have to be approved by them first. And imo if the cost to have it approved is more than the actual prize of the contest.. There's no reason to get it approved.

I also don't think Anet and their sponsors wanna go through all the legal stuff just to get a small halloween contest approved in Quebec.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loto-Quebec

Oh...I live here and I didn't know that. I've always wondered if it had something to do with the language barrier. But last year there were a few Quebec winners so I wonder how that worked out? Oh well, this somewhat calms me down but not enough. Maybe I'll send in the entry anyways and have a US guildie claim the prize.

Cjlr · Oct 07, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Didn't anyone read what I posted last time somebody asked about why the whole skill-testing question deal exists here in Canada? Anyone?

Only the federal and provincial governments can run games. Lotteries, casinos, betting, and yes, Guild Wars Halloween Art Contests, are forbidden by law. BUT prizes may be awarded for games of skill or games of chance and skill, providing that entry into the contest is free (the "no purchase necessary" clause, which I always miss in American ads

). The skill-testing question (which, as ruled by the Alberta Provincial Court, must contain the four basic mathematical processes) guarantees that the game does in face contain an element of skill and thus does not violate the Criminal Code.

Of course, that's without going into the situation in Quebec...

And a little disclaimer:
I'm no law talking guy.

trickfred · Oct 08, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Probably some legal issue.

People in Quebec can't enter either, thats funnier.

Quebec does have different (some would say silly) laws regarding contests that the rest of Canada (they often charge fees to the contest holders as well), and many companies find them too difficult/bothersome to deal with. It's much, much easier and less time-consuming to just exclude Quebec. It's a rather common occurrence.

/Canadian
//Anyone want Quebec? We won't miss it.

P.S. - For more information on the subject:

"Montreal, Canada, June 18, 2005

Void in Puerto Rico, Quebec and New York. This legal small print appears on all almost 90% of North American sweepstakes and contests. Big corporations like Pepsi, Best Buy or MGM are constantly using contests and sweepstakes as a marketing strategy to promote their products nationally in the US and Canada. However, the French province of Quebec with almost one third of the population of Canada is often not included in any contests. Indeed, it has to do with charity and contest laws in the province of Quebec. When planning national contests, companies are confronted with a unique set of rules and regulations in order to include Quebec. The Regie des Loteries et Courses du Quebec requires long preparation times and fees for approval. As a result a great number of national contests promoted by national brands exclude the province of Quebec. To shed some light on the issue, we have contacted the government agency responsible for slot machines, horse races, lotteries, sweepstakes and contests in Quebec. The following is a list of required steps in order to accomplish the impossible, get a sweepstakes approved in this unique Canadian province. The rules of a publicity contest must be accessible to the public and must include as a minimum:

·The conditions for entering the contest
·The places where the public must deposit or send the contest entry forms
·The deadline for entering the contest
·A description of the method of awarding the prizes
·The place, date and time the prizewinner will be named
·The media used to inform the winners of the prizes won
·The place, date and deadline for claiming prizes, or where applicable, whether the prizes will be delivered to the winner
·The information about how a jury will select the winners
·The nature of the skill-testing requirement that a winner has to satisfy in order to claim his prize
·A person for whom a publicity contest is carried on shall furnish security to the board where:
1)He has a head office or place of business in Quebec declared in accordance with the laws of Quebec
2)He has not been convicted of an offence against the Act or these Rules in that year precede the date of the launching of the publicity contest
3)That the value of a prize offered to Quebec residents is more than $ 100

It is recommended for companies wishing to offer contests and sweepstakes in Quebec to contact the Regie des Loteries et Courses du Quebec by visiting their website at www.racj.gouv.qc.ca

Meanwhile, until Quebec loosens its rules and regulations, a good site to enter contests valid and legal in Quebec is Quebec Concours located at: www.quebecconcours.com
There, you will find an extensive list of games, contests, sweepstakes, lotteries and surveys that pay participants. The site is a free resource for all Quebecois residents.

Bernard Gagnon
Canada Gaming Agency."

tomcruisejr · Oct 08, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmndidjit

Fear not Canadians, all the Halloween Art Contest says is "Canadian residents will be required to answer an additional mathematical question" not "correctly answer an additional mathematical question."

so the rule is still flawed then? a canadian can answer "Yes" if he is asked "2+2" and claim the prize.

Numa Pompilius · Oct 08, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lilanthe

I wonder why though.

Oh come on, everyone knows quebecians suck at math.

Phaern Majes · Oct 08, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legolas Ravenwood

It isn't going to affect you much. It will be a very simple math question such as

2(5+4)=?

Answer is 18! What do I win?

Oh and that Canadian law is rather funny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiki

A court decision ruled that these must contain at least three operations to actually be skill testing; for example, a common question might be "(2 × 4) + (10 × 3)" (Answer: 38)

I seriously can't believe a court sat around and decided on how hard a math problem had to be. I mean imagine the debate that ensued!

Siphen · Oct 08, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Oh come on, everyone knows quebecians suck at math.

Now we all know about your bad culture....

Btw im from Québec and its true that Loto-Québec take a lots of space and are not easy to deal with sometimes. For the math problem its always a real joke like this: 4+2-2x4/4= So if you win something like a Million buck and dont know how to solve this its not looking good for you lol

HawkofStorms · Oct 09, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by CleverLoginName

That's funny, i've been taught "Brackets Exponents Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction" my entire life.

Technically they are both right since mult/division and add/subtraction are actually supposed to be done simataneously.

Gros Albert · Oct 09, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

So does that mean i won't be able to go one the Halloween Event cause i live in quebec?
If so...that really sucks...